Comments on: X²Monad http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/ Getting into blogging before it's too late Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:28:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: ivanmiljenovic http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-40 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:11:37 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-40 Hi Henrique

First of all, this setup is rather old, and you should follow the guide on the wiki (which is based on this). Note that I no longer use Xfce, but rather LXDE (still with XMonad though :p ).

With pagers, I’m not quite sure what problem you’re talking about. If its about Xinerama issues (both workspaces are shown), as far as I know this is a problem with the EWMH standard (the people that wrote it thought one workspace over all screens).

For session management, not all applications support it unfortunately (for example, XMonad itself doesn’t). To get apps open on the right workspaces, uses ManageHooks in XMonad.

I might be biased, but I don’t find XMonad “hard”… then again, having at least basic knowledge on how to program in Haskell does help.

]]> By: Henrique Abreu http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-39 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:06:41 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-39 I know this conversation is a bit old and no one will help me here, but I know nowhere else to place my doubts and comments.
I followed this “tutorial” to config xmonad on xfce, and I got the same problem Joachim Breitner said, the pager always shows the last window.
I also tried to make session manager restore my windows, like ivanmiljenovic said, but it doesn’t restore all windows and toss all windows to 1st workspace, which makes it not very useful.
I’m liking xmonad more every day, its very productive, although it’s *very* hard to set up (even the basics), it should be tagged “for geeks only”

]]> By: Henning http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-16 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:25:19 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-16 I think you did completely misunderstand me ;)

- I prefer Icons too. But dzen can show me an icon that shows the current layout (tabbed, tiled, whatever).
And it can display the workspace name.
(My first 3 workspace names for example are “1:web”, “2:com” and “3:work”)

- I completely agree that the coolest and maybe most import thing in xfce are its panels. All what I’m using of xfce is a panel at the bottom actually. (But I also have a dzen at the top for the things that xfce panels simply cant do)

- Yes xfce’s panels are a lot more pretty. But in combination with xmonad they cant display the workspace name, the current layout or the title of the focused window.
I like these features so dzen can have its few pixels at the top for exactly this 3 tasks. I couldnt live without my xfce bars and all its cool plugins though ;)

]]> By: ivanmiljenovic http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-15 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:31:41 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-15 Well, I personally prefer icons to text for my panel (besides, I think my xfce panel is prettier than dzen :p ). Also, what’s the point of using xfce without using its panels? I’m not even sure if you can get rid of them all… IIRC, you have to have at least one.

]]> By: Henning http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-14 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:47:24 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-14 Dzen (as its configured here) does a few things xfce panel cant do:
* displays *names* of the workspaces
* shows an icon that informs me about the current layout algorithm
* shows the title of the current window (-> title of webpages, names of open files in editors, etc…)
I know you could substitude this with the tabbar extrensions for fullscreen mode but for tiled layout this is quite useful to me.

I think I dont have to tell much about why I use the xfce panel I think: its easy to configure, provides start-buttons, lots of cool objects, a pager, etc…

]]> By: ivanmiljenovic http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-13 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:58:28 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-13 Though I wonder why you would want xfpanel _and_ dzen…

]]> By: Henning http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-12 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:03:06 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-12 Thanks for this article. I used xfce+xmonad before but I didnt know about that cool ewmh stuff nor that it can be done without editing .xinitrc and starting everything I want from xfce but xfwm4 “by hand”.

Note: You can also use dzen *and* the xfce panel together by just adding the dynamic log hook line to the do block you posted.

]]> By: LCA 2008 « <<Insert Name Here>> http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-7 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:21:50 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-7 [...] to man the Gentoo stall at the LCA Open Day, where I’m going to demo my laptop running Xfce+XMonad, on which I’ve spent a couple of hours playing with different layouts, etc. since posting my [...]

]]> By: Joachim Breitner http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-6 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:57:45 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-6 Thanks. If you have this problem, please file a bug report at http://code.google.com/p/xmonad/issues/entry so this is being tracked (in case I forget to look at this blog entry again).

Greetings,
Joachim

]]> By: ivanmiljenovic http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-5 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:20:15 +0000 http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/xmonad/#comment-5 Hmmm… I’ve never actually closed all windows, since I like using the session manager to keep my windows open. I’ll try it later on and get back to you.

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